# How to half your gas and electric bills

**URL:** <https://community.carbon.coop/t/how-to-half-your-gas-and-electric-bills/547>\
**Category:** Home Energy Systems\
**Created:** [2 September 2022 19:27 UTC](https://community.carbon.coop/t/how-to-half-your-gas-and-electric-bills/547 "2022-09-02T19:27:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Obrien](https://community.carbon.coop/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/4af34b/32.png) [@John\_Obrien](https://community.carbon.coop/u/John_Obrien)\
**Post date:** [2 September 2022 19:27 UTC](https://community.carbon.coop/t/how-to-half-your-gas-and-electric-bills/547/1 "2022-09-02T19:27:34Z")

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My figures are only estimates, this will not work for everone and may not work when the new higher charges come in. Its more a lifestyle change.  
At my partners house some vandals set fire to the (BT) box and the Internet went out, I did have some data but not unlimited. It was out for a month so i changed my sim only contact to unlimited. The speed most of the time was fast enough (I only have a 4 g phone if i updated my phone the 5g would be faster)

Gas and electric bill a proximity £200/month.  
1, change your phone contract to a sim unlimited only £15/m on 3, there may be 2-3 phones in the house (we all cant have I phone 17, its a phone get over it.)  
Saving £40 to £100  
2, drop your internet package saving £40 to £50/m  
All this is just cutting you outgoings without looking at your gas and electric bill.

Another way will cost money, buy an electric car with VTG.  
Half you petrol/diesel when your car comes home and plugs in the lights come on in the house.  
A Tesla power wall can cost £7000 for one or £14000 for 2. Your car battery is bigger and can be charged up at night at 7-10p/kilowatt.  
I do expect some comments,  
Yours, John

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**Author:** ![sianrichards55](https://community.carbon.coop/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/0ea827/32.png) [@sianrichards55](https://community.carbon.coop/u/sianrichards55)\
**Post date:** [16 November 2022 09:10 UTC](https://community.carbon.coop/t/how-to-half-your-gas-and-electric-bills/547/2 "2022-11-16T09:10:46Z")

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Talking to a friend yesterday who has replaced internet contract with a 4G Vodafone contract with a cube(?) router. This was after suffering poor broadband connectivity for years, which BT never managed to fix, rather than cost savings. Presumably you need a strong mobile signal for this to be a suitable alternative though. I don’t think it would work for me as the mobile signal here still isn’t great, although much better than a few years ago.
